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Some dudes from Denmark or Holland were in Philly recently meeting with the mayor about some bike routes, but between the city, the fat bastards all over the place and idiot people, I have no faith anything good will get done regarding cycling/bike paths/etc.

But that would be awesome. And cycling poncho's in the office for use?  Europe is so different than America, here people would steal them.
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people would steal them.

Sell them on craigslist and eBay.

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Some dudes from Denmark or Holland were in Philly recently meeting with the mayor about some bike routes, but between the city, the fat bastards all over the place and idiot people, I have no faith anything good will get done regarding cycling/bike paths/etc.

But that would be awesome. And cycling poncho's in the office for use?  Europe is so different than America, here people would steal them.


From everything I've read, the key to successful bike infrastructure is having it separated from the road. When you do that, average folk start commuting, because they feel safe. Unfortunately, local municipalities will never work together in a meaningful way here, to effect this kind of change. No matter how good it would be for everybody.

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Sell them on craigslist and eBay.
:lol: good one!
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From everything I've read, the key to successful bike infrastructure is having it separated from the road. When you do that, average folk start commuting, because they feel safe. Unfortunately, local municipalities will never work together in a meaningful way here, to effect this kind of change. No matter how good it would be for everybody.
And space.  Near and around Philadelphia, there is no room for a trail that's not next to a road.

They extended the schukyll River trail out somewhat by me, you should have seen all the angry comments about wasted money and stupid cyclists, etc, it had people in a uproar.
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And space.  Near and around Philadelphia, there is no room for a trail that's not next to a road.

They extended the schukyll River trail out somewhat by me, you should have seen all the angry comments about wasted money and stupid cyclists, etc, it had people in a uproar.
rails to trails

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Taking out parking spaces is a good way to go, in business areas - studies show that it usually results in increased revenue for local business owners, and is further incentive to bike.

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rails to trails is exactly what they did for the chesco trail, people still cried
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People are dicks.

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People are dicks.
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and more to the point, they are stupid dicks

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People are dicks.


anytime money is spent on anything that doesn't directly impact someone they will cry and complain. These people fail to recognize that more cycling infrastructure = more cyclists = LESS TRAFFIC for their spiteful asses.




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Right on!

And last week on my ride home from the crit we took part of the trail to see what it was like and there were a bunch of people using it.  Running, walking, families riding, so it's not like it's just for me to get to work.
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rails to trails is exactly what they did for the chesco trail, people still cried

Around here, they b*tched about the "crime corridor" and safety, because it is a direct path from the "inner city" to the "safe suburbs". As if there aren't any criminals in the suburbs. Gotta hate those shopping cart people. Ax murderers, the lot of them, I say.

We have a developing network of rail trails out here, being built section by section and connecting them when each section is ready. Some of these paths are stunningly beautiful. The oldest one, the one I commute on when I can commute, needs a complete rebuilding. It's too narrow, and the trees are so close to the edge that they roots have buckled the surface to the point where it's like riding off road.

The local large towns and cities have bike lanes on the major routes. They are often populated by double parkers, delivery trucks, people standing around, etc., so one has to be diligent.

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rails to trails

Trail I ride in to work on (~7-8 miles of my 12 mile commute) is rail to trail.  They are trying to convert some of it back to rail actually, to put in a new light rail system.  But they'd keep the trail to the side of it somehow.