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tetonrider

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tell me about the crux
« on: September 14, 2012, 06:11:46 PM »
thinking of umd in particular here but open to others' opinions...

can you tell me about the crux? good stuff, bad stuff? is it worth it to get a top-tier model? what about the wheels?

i guess with disc brakes that means i would not be using my road wheels...and i have heard that deep rims can be nice for cross (and mud).

anything you would do differently?

kinda sorta thinking...

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2012, 06:22:58 PM »
Maybe you could clarify whether this will be the frame or a stock bike. 

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2012, 07:34:33 PM »
What do you want to know, and what are you going to use it for?

I like mine, I got it as a "light duty" trail bike and rain bike. I had a tricross I was happy enough with but I wanted the disc brakes and the tricross did feel a little top-heavy.

I got it as a complete bike last year, with Apex. It's heavy. If I was going to race it I probably would have just gotten a frame and built it up, and maybe this year sprung for the carbon one.
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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2012, 08:20:46 PM »
hey, guys--just got back from a ride and thought about this some more.

i think i may want to do some cross races. i am used to a pretty high-end road setup (spoiled), so i don't want to get a crappy bike. kind of thinking i could have a nice setup--maybe a moderate rim...something 303-ish...with a nice tubular tire (what's a good tire size for cross, just as a general all-rounder?).

do i want disc? i would think so, but that would mean wheels are never interchangeable for me.

i like the looks of the crux carbon expert frameset....does anyone know what other colors the pro and s-works come in (any black or black/grey models?)?

i'm assuming i could bolt on some 46/36-ish rings to my 110bcd crankset.

OSBB/BB30/PF30 preferred, just because i have those cranks/power meter available.

i'd probably use it for very light duty trail, some rain, some racing.

i prefer shimano parts. are all the built bikes only available w/ sram? also, given my setup above it looks like the wheelsets would be 'throw-away' for me. where should i look for good disc wheel sets...aside from building up my own? (any zipp/enve pre-builts?)

figure it would be a good way to keep the fitness up during the fall.

thanks!

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2012, 08:23:59 PM »
ps i'd also consider some other options, bt i can usually get a deal on specialized that makes them highly attractive, and i've liked the performance, fit and service.

umd (and others): do you ride the same size cross bike as road bike? does one tend to size up or down? i'm between a 54 & 56 on the road, but i tend to ride 56 with a 110/-17 stem and prefer the handling just a bit.

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2012, 09:02:08 PM »
I have a disc Crux Apex, same as umd.  Mine is a couple of lbs lighter just because I have decent wheels (tubeless that  built for my 29er -- if you have a 29er the wheels are interchangeable, though you may have to swap disc sizes and of course tires). I think weight will be a non-issue with the carbon disc frame, high end wheels and components.   

I would be very surprised if you built up a carbon disc Crux and were not delighted with it.  Plus the disc expert carbon Crux looks HOT.

I ride a 54s all around, but the 54 Crux feels longer than my 54 Tarmac.  The wheelbase of course is significantly longer.

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2012, 09:09:10 PM »
uci rules are max 33 mm tires, so 32's are what's widely available in tubs.
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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2012, 09:22:16 PM »
Well my involvement stopped at the word race meaning I couldn't recommend a randonneuring bike instead.

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 09:39:08 PM »
I have a disc Crux Apex, same as umd.  Mine is a couple of lbs lighter just because I have decent wheels (tubeless that  built for my 29er -- if you have a 29er the wheels are interchangeable, though you may have to swap disc sizes and of course tires). I think weight will be a non-issue with the carbon disc frame, high end wheels and components.   

I would be very surprised if you built up a carbon disc Crux and were not delighted with it.  Plus the disc expert carbon Crux looks HOT.

I ride a 54s all around, but the 54 Crux feels longer than my 54 Tarmac.  The wheelbase of course is significantly longer.

thanks for the info. what stem (length/angle) do you run on your crux & tarmac?

didn't realize the 29er wheels are interchangeable. i have some 29er tubeless carbon rims for my MTB.

i see the stinger 5 comes in a disc version...  :D

i'd be inclined to go tubular for cross vs tubeless.

hm. i guess i could run some older road parts....but would just need to get mechanical disc calipers...

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2012, 10:04:01 PM »
what stem (length/angle) do you run on your crux & tarmac?

100/-6 on the Tarmac, 100/-8 on the Crux.  But I have the Crux stem a lot higher, and 42cm bars on it vs 40, so the tops are more MTB-ish.

I love the tubeless for CX, for the same reason I love it for MTB. It rides like a magic carpet and the wheels just feel cool, sort of hollow and light. OTOH I currently have a tube in the rear because I flatted the tubeless.

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2012, 10:28:26 PM »
You can run hydraulic brakes and one of the mechanical to hydraulic converters that are starting to show up on the higher end road disc bikes.
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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2012, 10:33:49 PM »
100/-6 on the Tarmac, 100/-8 on the Crux.  But I have the Crux stem a lot higher, and 42cm bars on it vs 40, so the tops are more MTB-ish.

I love the tubeless for CX, for the same reason I love it for MTB. It rides like a magic carpet and the wheels just feel cool, sort of hollow and light. OTOH I currently have a tube in the rear because I flatted the tubeless.
interesting on the stems and the taller setup. any sense of how many additional spacers you have?

i like tubeless MTB....but i think tubular would be a better ride. i just wouldn't really ride tubular MTB due to the risk of flatting and hassle.

You can run hydraulic brakes and one of the mechanical to hydraulic converters that are starting to show up on the higher end road disc bikes.

didn't know that existed.

does the crux expert (complete bike) look like the same frame set as the crux pro? i like the coloring of the expert on the site, and it looks like the s-works is not available as a disc (and is in black and pink).

the pro is available as a frame only, but i could buy the expert as a complete bike and sell off all the parts. hm.

if the crux and pro framesets/forks are identical, i'll probably go that route. i think i def want disc.

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2012, 10:37:41 PM »
PS really appreciate the help. i have a feeling i may act quickly.

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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2012, 10:42:26 PM »
I would not race 303/zipp/expensive wheels for CX, unless money is no object or you have access to free/cheap wheels.  Round here, the cross courses beat the snot out of your equipment, especially wheels.
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Re: tell me about the crux
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2012, 10:56:12 PM »
interesting on the stems and the taller setup. any sense of how many additional spacers you have?

Probably 20mm more spacers, but the head tube is taller too.  It's a totally different fit.  Some people do it my way, others try to fit cross bikes just like their road bikes.

I haven't seen one of the mech-to-hydro setups in person yet.  Seems like a lot of fragile looking stuff to be hanging on a CX bike.  I have no complaints with the BB7 mech discs, which are far from fancy, but keep in mind the baseline is cantis so anything that even halfway works is an improvement.  Like the LBS owner here says, cross bikes aren't supposed to work right and stop when you want them to.  You are supposed to white knuckle the bars and yell "aaaargh!" for 45 minutes.