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Training with Power for Triathletes
« on: April 18, 2012, 02:18:10 PM »
I don't frequent this section much, but I recently became friendly with a triathlete, got me thinking...


I understand a lot of triathletes don't use a power meter, even the pro's, perhaps I am over simplifying things, but, wouldn't a triathlete be a perfect candidate for a power meter?  I mean, for the bike leg, you know you should be able to do X watts for a certain time, if you go over, you are gonna suffer on your run.  So wouldn't a PM be invaluable?  Especially a pro, why would they not use such a tool?  If I had to run a marathon after a bike leg, I would want to know how hard I can go and still be able to do a decent run, if I blow on the bike leg, my race is finished and I still have to run a marathon.
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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 02:49:02 PM »
WC, I don't know how any pro triathlete competes without one.  I am training for Sprints (500m/20K/5k) and next spring, an OLY (1k/40k/10k) and have seriously considered getting one for training and then like you said for the actual race for pacing.  I just need to finish my house first.  (and I will be estatic if I finish in the top 50% of my age group  :( )

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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 03:50:03 PM »
My guess is that they are worried about damaging it when the fall over trying to clip in.

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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 03:52:22 PM »
The guy I was talking to kept asking me about my speeds, when I told him I didn't even have speed displayed on my main garmin screens he was confused.  I was explaining how I train using watts and time and he was kinda confused.  He is new tho, one who has been at it for some time, to me a PM is a no brainer if you have the $$ for one.
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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 04:18:52 PM »
The guy I was talking to kept asking me about my speeds, when I told him I didn't even have speed displayed on my main garmin screens he was confused.  I was explaining how I train using watts and time and he was kinda confused.  He is new tho, one who has been at it for some time, to me a PM is a no brainer if you have the $$ for one.
I rode my bike to the pool one day and I met a guy when I was swimming who was (he said) a competetive age grouper at 1/2 IM distance.  He claimed to have never seen a Garmin.  He could not believe that all that info was on the display.   :/

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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2012, 04:20:25 PM »
My guess is that they are worried about damaging it when the fall over trying to clip in.
you just HAD to go there didn't you. :)
 
<insert pooping on yourself triathlon pic>

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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2012, 04:59:04 PM »
HR still seems to be the standard, but a lot of the training plans are starting to go by power now.

Maybe HR is preferred since you can follow it from bike to run? Iunno.

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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2012, 09:27:26 PM »
I would say most pro triathletes train with power now.  But a race is a race for them (not a solo training event like for most of us), similar to bike racing.  If someone goes, you can't always afford to just sit back at your ideal power while they ride up the road from you. 

As for amateurs, who knows.  There are people that sign up for an ironman without even knowing how to swim or ride a bike.    I don't try to understand other amateur triathletes, I just go with the flow.  It's a varied group of people. 

Another thing is that you spend enough time training at your paces, and you get really good at pacing, even without a power meter.  You have to self pace on the swim and run anyway. 

I've used a powertap since late last year, and love it for training.  Raced last weekend and not sure it was as useful to me then.  Still trying to figure that out.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 09:30:47 PM by Quel »

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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 02:11:15 PM »
Makes sense, and I don't pretend to understand triathlon training.  I realize it is a race I am just stuck on the bike leg and going above your zones then having to run, like if I can do X watts for 5 hours, then race day and I do X75 watts, no way can I be competitive in the run.  I watched the Kona IM one day on the trainer, I believe it was Chris Leito? who was passing people on the bike, then slowing down, then speeding up, etc.  I was like wtf he is burning matches, the announcers even said that. In the run he fizzled out short of the line.  I'm pretty certain he didn't use a PM.


There is a young guy (fresh outta college) I used to race bike with a few years ago, anyway, I saw him the other night on the road, he does Tri's now, pretty good, said he just qualified for his Pro Card.  I'm gonna ask him too.
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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 02:12:33 PM »
My guess is that they are worried about damaging it when the fall over trying to clip in.
:lol:
WTF tho, when I replied to RU the first time, this post wasn't even here???  How did you go back in time and insert a post?  I thought I noticed this happening a little while back, just thought I was imagining things...
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Re: Training with Power for Triathletes
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2012, 05:26:00 PM »
Makes sense, and I don't pretend to understand triathlon training.  I realize it is a race I am just stuck on the bike leg and going above your zones then having to run, like if I can do X watts for 5 hours, then race day and I do X75 watts, no way can I be competitive in the run.  I watched the Kona IM one day on the trainer, I believe it was Chris Leito? who was passing people on the bike, then slowing down, then speeding up, etc.  I was like wtf he is burning matches, the announcers even said that. In the run he fizzled out short of the line.  I'm pretty certain he didn't use a PM.


There is a young guy (fresh outta college) I used to race bike with a few years ago, anyway, I saw him the other night on the road, he does Tri's now, pretty good, said he just qualified for his Pro Card.  I'm gonna ask him too.
I saw the same thing watching a hilly IM in Idaho or something.  There was one guy who just would not maintain a steady pace, and I was yelling at the TV.  He dropped out around mile 8 on the run.  And he was in second place at the time.  He did not have a PM.