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HEY RANDO!!!!
« on: August 30, 2011, 01:21:02 PM »
Thinking about this one. LBS man will give me a better deal on it.  OKAY OKAY OKAY BESIDES THE SUNTOUR FORK ISSUE... What do you think?

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=52803


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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 01:56:29 PM »
Since you seem stuck on getting a 29'er I will leave my well voiced commentary on that in the past.  I am however fairly certain that you won't be able to assess proper fit without having ridden a mtb into hard country.  Needless to say, you need to be able get your butt behind the saddle when you are standing up.  On the other end you need to be able to climb seated without your front tire lifting off the ground while maintaining enough weight on the rear tire to keep it from losing traction.  A poorly equipped mtb that fits would be better than this new one if it is not suited to your proportions.  That much is on you and the LBS.


As far as the bike goes my first suggestion is for you to immerse yourself into researching disc brakes.  They are a completely different animal in every way from V-brakes.  If you cannot foresee handling a flat tire alone in adverse conditions you may be better off with a CL beater to, well, beat on. 


Beating on a mtb is the only way to ride efficiently.  The Alivio drivetrain, cheap wheels, crappy grips, saddle, and the pedals should not be replaced until you have destroyed them.  Chances are the stock tires are poorly suited to your riding conditions and are thus brilliant to learn on.  Basically any aesthetic considerations go out the window as you get dirty and crash till you are sore enough to give up. 


Ride over and through any obstacle with small regard for personal fears without being an idiot or an ******* and you will start to enjoy it once your internal organs adjust to the jolting. 




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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 10:00:30 PM »
Why don't you like 29'ers? Is it a general dislike or is it specific to this situation?
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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 10:15:02 PM »
Thinking about this one. LBS man will give me a better deal on it.  OKAY OKAY OKAY BESIDES THE SUNTOUR FORK ISSUE... What do you think?

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=52803

makel, a 29'er at our height is not a great idea. Find a nice mtb, with good components that fits you well and call it quits.

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 10:27:05 PM »
makel is a midget too?

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 10:55:02 PM »
Given her diminutive stature and wish to not overspend I felt that there were gains to be had looking at a more traditional 26" in the used market and equip it better.  I went so far as to find numerous very gently used mtb's in her area and price out some upgraded parts for them at off season sale prices.  My full opinion was that she should only look for a full suspension mtb as no sane person can attest to them not being insanely fun.  Forget weight loss and personal accomplishment and go enjoy getting dirty and riding over things.


As far as 26" versus 29".  Not being @ 5' and female I can only approximate what the difference would be in the real world.  I suspect since she is so near the cutoff for 650c road wheels the 29" will be an overcompensation to the supposed benefits they offer.  Once again, a serviceable full suspension mtb outweighs the new bike for her indeterminate usage. 


The pure joy I have seen had by people who would never otherwise ride a bike, have on somebodies decent quality FS mtb.  Once the legality of not being responsible or capable of breaking the bike is settled it is amazing how fast the nerve to jump it off curbs and retaining walls takes up an afternoon.  Not to mention how therapeutic it is to go over the bars into soft grass and realize you could probably do that again without getting hurt.

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 08:25:44 AM »
Given her diminutive stature and wish to not overspend I felt that there were gains to be had looking at a more traditional 26" in the used market and equip it better. I went so far as to find numerous very gently used mtb's in her area and price out some upgraded parts for them at off season sale prices.  My full opinion was that she should only look for a full suspension mtb as no sane person can attest to them not being insanely fun.  Forget weight loss and personal accomplishment and go enjoy getting dirty and riding over things.

Amen.

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 10:40:35 AM »
Hey I'm 5' 3.5" !!  :)
 
I guess I'll go take a 29 and a 26 for test rides??  But the 29er's look cooler!

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 10:41:36 AM »
This is no rush though, not going to do anything on it till October, unless one falls out of the sky for like $5.

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 11:32:40 PM »
I don't get a 29er. Prefer my 26 as it feels easier to throw around.

makel

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 01:37:10 PM »
just for fun i checked CL, it seems to be slim pickens right now

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2011, 12:46:28 AM »
Lot's of pros and cons to 29ers.  My last MTB purchase (this year) was focused on a bike I could race on as my All-Mountain ride was just too much to race on.   I rode several 29ers, both FS and HT, convinced I needed to move into this direction.  Alas, each one I test rode, I found flaws.  Whether is was sluggish handling in tight terrain, or heavy wheels that required more than I expected in maintaining cadence for LONG periods of time (think fire road climbs), to slow acceleration, etc...  Wound up getting another 26er and couldn't be happier.  I may try 29ers again, but on the cheap and not with something on the line...


This of course, is just my experiences.  Oh, and I am just shy of 5'9"...

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2011, 12:31:47 PM »
A local cat2 mtb racer just took possession of a 16 lb. carbon Scott 29'r with tubular ENVE wheels and lots of other cost conscious parts.  For whatever ungodly amount of money all of that cost it should be good enough for the two races left this year.  I am going to go out on a limb that jeepnut didn't have the chance to test ride such a bike. 

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2011, 03:18:52 PM »
an LBS guy informed me that he thinks 29'ers will eventually be the industry standard and that 26'ers will be a thing of the past.

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Re: HEY RANDO!!!!
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2011, 03:29:08 PM »
an LBS guy informed me that he thinks 29'ers will eventually be the industry standard and that 26'ers will be a thing of the past.

I do not agree with that. A lot of singletrack racers still use 26'ers because of their cornering and descending