Conti 4000S

[jmilliron]

Who bashes contis? Jason prefers something else, and it's his right to be wrong.

Yeah, for sure not basing them.  They're good tires.  I just personally rather run Pro3Race and deal with the shorter life span.  I've gone back and forth between 4000/4000s/Attack/Force and Pro3Race.  I just think they're more comfortable and I'm more confident descending in the mountains with them.

And yeah, I run latex tubes.  In the past Mitch, but more recently, Vittoria.  They seem to hold air longer and are the same weight.

[sbxx1985]

I switched to the Pro3s a few years ago after running GP3000s and 4000s.  I prefer the ride of the Pro3s, although their shelf life is shorter than the GP4000s.  Like jmilliron, I'm just willing to replace them more often.  Not bashing the Contis - just prefer the Pro3s.

On a side note, I've put some decent miles on the Pro4s I ordered from pbk.  They're not cutting and pitting as easily as the Pro3s, but the ride quality is about the same.  Since you can find the Pro3s now for about half the price of the Pro4s, I think that's the route to go.

[WHOOOSSHHH...]

I switched to the Pro3s a few years ago after running GP3000s and 4000s.  I prefer the ride of the Pro3s, although their shelf life is shorter than the GP4000s.  Like jmilliron, I'm just willing to replace them more often.  Not bashing the Contis - just prefer the Pro3s.

On a side note, I've put some decent miles on the Pro4s I ordered from pbk.  They're not cutting and pitting as easily as the Pro3s, but the ride quality is about the same.  Since you can find the Pro3s now for about half the price of the Pro4s, I think that's the route to go.

As far as ride quality, I totally agree!

[sickmtbnutcase]

I love my GP4s tires and those are with standard tubes for normal riding. I'm tempted to try latex tubes to improve ride quality.


I'm also a big fan of my Hutchinson Atom Comps for race duty with Lunar Light (50g) tubes. They do ride a lot nicer than the GPs, but no way I'd use them for normal ride duty. They'd be destroyed in a heartbeat.

[WCroadie]

I used vittoria open corsa's on my race only wheels, and yes they did not last but were nice.  Still have one set left.  I used vittoria rubino pro for training/commuting all last year, no complaints.  Now I have some Bontrager R2+ for training/trainer commuting, they were cheap and are durable enough.  I use the same tire for trainer/outdoor training thru the winter so durability and cheapness is primary concern.


I don't run super light tubes any more, been burnt in races a few times.  All this raving about Conti4000's are perking my interest tho, maybe once spring comes and I can put the trainer away.

[wens]

I switched to the Pro3s a few years ago after running GP3000s and 4000s.  I prefer the ride of the Pro3s, although their shelf life is shorter than the GP4000s.  Like jmilliron, I'm just willing to replace them more often.  Not bashing the Contis - just prefer the Pro3s.

On a side note, I've put some decent miles on the Pro4s I ordered from pbk.  They're not cutting and pitting as easily as the Pro3s, but the ride quality is about the same.  Since you can find the Pro3s now for about half the price of the Pro4s, I think that's the route to go.

I want to try the pro4's w/ the 150 tpi casing that still have the breaker belt, but I can't find them on anyone's website in the us or uk. I'm hoping it's worth picking those up because of the more supple casing.

[tetonrider]

I don't believe there is such a tire as a longer lasting Open Corsa. 


I get 2500 mi out of a rear 4000s, much better puncture protection, grip is as good, but it lacks the supple road feel.  When my last OC tire lasted 50mi on the back after hitting a stick (of all things), I just gave up on 'em.

i've had an odd thing or two happen early in the life of my open corsas, but that's just $hit happens...could happen to any tire. last year i got one flat on my OCs (used from may-october), and possibly one the year prior. when i get one flat (post-1500 miles) i toss them.

I've never run Vittorias so I looked them up.  Minimum pressure is 115 psi?

not sure what that is, but it's silly and wrong. i think i came across a tire recently that said 120-200psi. dumb.

[Rangerdavid]

I've ridden the Vittoria's, well, I had one set of them.  Then I switched to the Conti 4000's and never looked back.  I buy 'em two pair at a time and keep them on each set of wheels I own.  For winter I ride the Conti Gatorskins.  I'll never ride anything else.

[ygduf]

for me, the 4000s are the perfect intersection of performance, durability, and cost. I like the feel of pr3s more, to be honest, but they don't last 1/3 of the miles I get from 4000s.

[HAZMATCYCLIST]

I think everyone was born with a genetic code of what tires work best for them.  A lot of us have the Conti code. I even run my "used" 4000s on my commuter bike yet and not a flat on the way to work in almost a year. 

However, I am going to try the Vittoria Open Corso Evo CX tires for racing crits this year.  Got a good deal on them, but have a new set of 4000s on stand by.

[makel]

I haven't had a flat since I switched to GP4's. It's been nice.

[shovelhd]

Doomed.

[makel]

Doomed.

  I'll keep you posted!

[Menel]

PRO4's came on my new bike.  Only got 90 miles on them, but they ride great, grip the pavement on descents slinging bike through hairpins and dodging potholes.

That said... I just ordered another twinpack of 4000S's from PBK to restock for whenever needed for whichever bike *shrug*

[ygduf]

the copy reads like pro4s are trying to be the new 4000s.


They felt similar when I was just poking them.