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Offline Vicelord

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Need Saddle Help
« on: January 03, 2014, 11:56:33 AM »
Hey, so I posted this on bike forums but I typically get a more experienced and knowledgeable response there so here goes... copy + paste + post!

I've got some serious saddle issues I've got to remedy and I don't know where to start, hoping this forum can help.

I have a bontrager affinity rxl on my Madone as it came with the bike. I have find this saddle to be okay in the comfort department but never great. Lately though, as I've been doing longer base rides over off-season the discomfort can become overwhelming.

My main complaints have been what I'd describe as "dead dick" and on really long rides I have to move my weight constantly. It makes riding seem unbearable. The saddle is level and I do not have any back, leg, shoulder, or neck pains. It's strictly numbness and soreness between my sit bones.

Obviously no one can say what the problem is without a doubt but can anyone take a stab at it and maybe let me know what I might try? I've never had these issues before using a toupe or an arione.

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I would run out and buy an s works toupe tomorrow if I was confident it would solve my problem, because I have that saddle on my allez and it is great (though I've never ridden the allez longer than 3 hours and my madone sees 5,6, even 8 hour rides... also S Works saddle on a Trek???), but on the off chance it is a fit issue, which I have explored and not been able to identify, I'd hate to be out $250 and not solve the problem. I went a degree nose up last night and I'm going to ride that today to see if it changes anything. I've tried moving the saddle forward and backward with no luck. I'm starting to think the nose is too narrow pushing me forward and sitting on my gooch, and the saddle has a huge bulge on the front of it, which dictates that you sit in a specific spot, and this morning's research revealed that trek sells this thing as an upright position saddle, which I definitely am not. I like to be stretched out, low, and aero as I can be on the bike, a very aggressive position with a -17 105mm stem.

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2014, 12:42:31 PM »
Breaking news: Madones are shipped with low end stock parts that meet the needs of their largest consumer, elderly men with massive spacer stacks. 


Buy a Fizik Volta and then tell me and 40 years of Pro Tour riders it sucks. 

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2014, 12:43:53 PM »
I ride slightly off center to relieve perineal pressure and also stand often. I've been a staunch advocate of fizik Aliante saddles for years but they only have one sweet spot.
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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2014, 12:48:49 PM »
Breaking news: Madones are shipped with low end stock parts that meet the needs of their largest consumer, elderly men with massive spacer stacks. 

super truth, except the low end part. The saddle that came on my bike is not exactly low end, it's 140g carbon rails, about $240 retail, which actually kind of aggravates me that I need to replace it. You're absolutely right though, that the shape of the saddle is made for guys riding around super upright with mirrors on their helmets. I bet I could sell it to one of them to recoup some out of pocket expense.

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2014, 12:58:53 PM »
What saddle did you have on the BMC, and were you able to do long rides on that one without any issues?

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2014, 01:15:52 PM »
12,000 miles on that bmc saddle with no issue. I can't figure out what saddle it is though, if I could find out, i'd buy one in a second.

Also the hurdle I'm going to have is the 7x10 seat rails, can't change seat post either.

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2014, 01:22:00 PM »
Buy a lower end Toupe to see if the shape works for you.  If it does then get the expensive model and keep the first saddle for your #2 bike or as a backup in case the expensive one breaks.

The Toupe works well for me.  I like a relatively flat saddle both front to back and side to side.  That puts more pressure on the sit bone and less on the nerves in the middle (the cutout also helps).  But some people like rounded saddles, or ones with a kick up in the rear to push against.  Not having that means you need a little more core strength for long seated climbing.

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2014, 01:32:07 PM »
Seriously, look at a Volta.  It is a modern update on three of the best saddles before the Arione and has carbon rails. 


Haus has to have test saddles you can try.  Make your own assy decision.

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2014, 01:46:24 PM »
I have a toupe on my allez, I like it a lot.

My problem is putting a toupe on a trek. Yes, I'm like that.

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2014, 02:16:44 PM »
I have a toupe on my allez, I like it a lot.

My problem is putting a toupe on a trek. Yes, I'm like that.


This could be your answer. I was going to say keep trying saddles until you find one that keeps your guy from getting sleepy.
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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2014, 02:35:19 PM »
I'm not a dude but my adamo still works great. G what is the saddle that you have on your time trial bike? I forgot the brand.

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2014, 03:13:18 PM »
switch the toupe to the trek and see if the problem resolves.


If you'd rather have ED than mismatched saddle/bike, you get what you get I guess.

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2014, 04:00:23 PM »
I can't do that. The toupe has round metal rails

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2014, 04:04:11 PM »
switch the toupe to the trek and see if the problem resolves.


He said the Trek wants 7x10 rails.

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Re: Need Saddle Help
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2014, 04:13:03 PM »
Do they sell an adapter for the clamp?