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shovelhd

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Re: Quarq owners thread
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2011, 09:34:18 AM »
Yeah, I could go the epoxy or BB bracket route if it cuts out again. I'm not too concerned.

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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2011, 10:14:40 AM »
I'm thinking a Quarq may be my big bike purchase for next year.  Best prices the last two years have been black friday/cyber monday type deals, right?

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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2011, 10:34:38 AM »
Unless you get a team deal or maybe psimet cuts a deal with some wheels. I went with bicycleoutfittersindy. 25% off, Th-Su on BF weekend. $1346 and change, no BB. Despite indicating that they were in stock, they were not, and had to be shipped direct from Spearfish. Fresh off the line. I found a take-off Blackbox GXP ceramic BB on ST for $50.

I know it was a lot of work and hassle for indy to do this deal. It may not show up next year. Then again, maybe it will.

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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2011, 05:49:04 PM »
My Quarq is supposed to show up today, a day early  :bday: . There's no consensus on this thread. Hmmm. There's no need for me to use the epoxy, so it's either the ring or the BB cable mount. I'm going to try the ring first.

i'd use the cable mount. why add another thing on the bb/crank interface? 1mm difference in Q factor won't really make any noticeable difference while riding.

if those are your 2 choices, it doesn't matter too much: neither one is "permanent". the quarq-supplied 2-part putty can be tough to get off without leaving a mark.

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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2011, 05:50:38 PM »
I tried to add a magnet but it was rubbing the inner sensor ring, so one magnet it is. I swapped the inner chainring back to 39T and dialed the shifting in, and now it's as good or better than when I had the 7900 crank.

yeah, you should only need 1 magnet. those little guys are powerful. multiple magnets is only necessary when they are REALLY far away.

also, as said earlier they just need to "nick" the edge of the ring where the sensors reside. this is very important for folks with bb30 frames, which can be a bit trickier to fit depending on the model.

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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2011, 05:54:27 PM »
Unless you get a team deal or maybe psimet cuts a deal with some wheels. I went with bicycleoutfittersindy. 25% off, Th-Su on BF weekend. $1346 and change, no BB. Despite indicating that they were in stock, they were not, and had to be shipped direct from Spearfish. Fresh off the line. I found a take-off Blackbox GXP ceramic BB on ST for $50.

I know it was a lot of work and hassle for indy to do this deal. It may not show up next year. Then again, maybe it will.

that was a good sale.

for what it's worth, qbp's price for a quarq s975 gxp is $1257, which does not include bottom bracket.

what i've found lately is that anyone can often approach or even do better than qbp-pricing with some careful shopping, stacking deals, etc. it's not just a black-friday thing. on the other hand, i just sold a used one for $1,400. i could have gotten more but just wanted to cover my cost -- and the one the guy wanted wasn't in stock anywhere, so he got a bonus of getting one in 2 days.

the sram cinqo hasn't changed since it's release, except for the black colored rings instead of the anodized grey. quarq will always upgrade the firmware / recalibrate /test calibration for free, so you needn't worry about purchasing an "old" one.


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Re: Quarq owners thread
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2011, 06:50:58 PM »
the sram cinqo hasn't changed since it's release, except for the black colored rings instead of the anodized grey. quarq will always upgrade the firmware / recalibrate /test calibration for free, so you needn't worry about purchasing an "old" one.

That's not true, there have been several iterations. I had an original one, pre "saturn" ring. They also updated the electronics at some point and then went to the different colored ring.
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2011, 07:11:36 PM »
They also changed the battery cap from what I hear.

I'm happy with my deal. The Powertap I sold paid for half of it.

tetonrider

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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2011, 12:03:38 AM »
That's not true, there have been several iterations. I had an original one, pre "saturn" ring. They also updated the electronics at some point and then went to the different colored ring.

are you talking about the specialized cinqo or the sram version, umd?

the specialized cinqo HAS changed. i don't believe the sram red  (s975) version has, though, which is what i was referring to in my post. the production s975 was only introduced 2 years ago, right? maybe i'm jut thinking of the compact version.

(shovel: yes, the battery cover changed very slightly. i am certain the electronics have been the same since march 2010 production to now -- just sent in a cinqo for new rings before selling it, and the date stamped on there from 2010 matches the cinqos i've seen with later dates. firmware has been updated over time, but cinqos can be updated.

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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2011, 03:21:09 PM »
I'm talking about all of them, as a whole. I don't know what is specific to the S975 but I had an original S900 with no Saturn ring. The Specialized version always had a ring.
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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2011, 11:06:44 AM »
I'm talking about all of them, as a whole. I don't know what is specific to the S975 but I had an original S900 with no Saturn ring. The Specialized version always had a ring.

Yes, umd is right-o, the guts have changed it's documented via posts by Quarq reps on the Quarq website forums.

For example..

http://www.quarq.com/forum/thread/17/

tetonrider

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« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2011, 07:39:52 PM »
I'm talking about all of them, as a whole. I don't know what is specific to the S975 but I had an original S900 with no Saturn ring. The Specialized version always had a ring.
the versions are not all the same. i was trying to keep my comments to the s975 version. if memory serves, you were a tester -- were you using the sram or specialized version at that time? if you were a tester of the sram version (prior to mid-2009, if i remember right) , is it possible they changed something before going to full production? i only ever had one they billed as an "s975", and that was because it was the first to be offered in a bb30 compact -- they didn't have the specialized compact version at that time.

the specialized 130 bcd version has changed from the saturn (2009) to the saturn 2 (2011 for sure, don't believe it was available in summer 2010).

the sram versions i've seen and used (s975 bb30, for what it is worth) from early 2010 and now are identical visually (and internally, so i've been told by quarq).

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« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2011, 02:26:22 AM »
Yes, I was a tester. I had an original s900 model that I pre-ordered long before they were first available and got from one of the first production runs, as far as I know. I tested several versions of the s9xx Saturn prototype as well as several versions of the specialized prototype. At one point one of the reed switches in the original crank died and they replaced it with the current (at the time) model. Also because there is no actual difference between the compact and standard versions except the bolts of the spider, I had it changed out to a compact at that time, and was only out the cost of 110 the BCD chainrings.

The s9xx cranks all use the same interface, so the spiders are the same (except obviously compact vs. non), and s975 is immaterial. I'm not sure what the point is in all of this; they've gone through several iterations of the physical as well as electronic implementations, but if it works it works and if you have a problem they fix it. If the point was that you aren't going to get stuck with old technology, then I agree. I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just attempting to provide some background and correct a factual error that the Cinqo spider has never changed. Note that the crank and Cinqo do not need to be purchased together, so there is not necessarily the concept of an integrated s975 power meter unit... there is no reason someone couldn't have taken an older Cinqo and slapped it on a newer crank for some reason. If you look at it in isolation as s975 cranks sold by Quarq with power meters already fitted, then your statement may very well be true, but I haven't been following the recent development closely enough to say.
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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2011, 12:33:29 AM »
Yes, I was a tester. I had an original s900 model that I pre-ordered long before they were first available and got from one of the first production runs, as far as I know. I tested several versions of the s9xx Saturn prototype as well as several versions of the specialized prototype. At one point one of the reed switches in the original crank died and they replaced it with the current (at the time) model. Also because there is no actual difference between the compact and standard versions except the bolts of the spider, I had it changed out to a compact at that time, and was only out the cost of 110 the BCD chainrings.

The s9xx cranks all use the same interface, so the spiders are the same (except obviously compact vs. non), and s975 is immaterial. I'm not sure what the point is in all of this; they've gone through several iterations of the physical as well as electronic implementations, but if it works it works and if you have a problem they fix it. If the point was that you aren't going to get stuck with old technology, then I agree. I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just attempting to provide some background and correct a factual error that the Cinqo spider has never changed. Note that the crank and Cinqo do not need to be purchased together, so there is not necessarily the concept of an integrated s975 power meter unit... there is no reason someone couldn't have taken an older Cinqo and slapped it on a newer crank for some reason. If you look at it in isolation as s975 cranks sold by Quarq with power meters already fitted, then your statement may very well be true, but I haven't been following the recent development closely enough to say.

my sincere apologies if *I* came across as argumentative -- that was truly not my intent.

i was digging through my quarq records and here is what i realized (and what i should have said):
i purchased my first cinqo in 2009 -- a specialized model for bb30 / 130bcd. i was on the waiting list for the first compact version, which was a sram s975 bb30 110 bcd. if memory serves, that was the first compact version released -- and for sure it was the first compact bb30 version. i got mine in early- to mid-2010. (side note: the supplied sram rings sucked for me; replaced with shimano and had no problems.)

since delivery of that s975 110 bcd (bb30), there have been no hardware changes to that particular version -- from what i've observed in seeing a new model and that version (labeled march 2010). quarq has updated the firmware, and they've outright updated the cinqo units (for example, there is now a specialized cinqo saturn2)...and as previously posted above sometimes just one piece (the antenna) has been updated.

anyway, i apologize for the confusion, and i hope that nothing i posted came across as anything other than trying to provide good info.

i'm definitely a fan of quarq products.

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Re: Quarq owners thread
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2011, 12:43:22 AM »
No worries, it's all good.
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