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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1020 on: July 13, 2012, 10:47:54 AM »
anyone else see the wiggins statement that CDR posted on twitter/fb? i read through it quickly on the bus. seems interesting, but it worries me when guys make such definitive claims and act like they're "one of the few" who stood up against doping. I'm much more of the belief that wiggins was involved in doping at some point and may (or may not) be clean now. none of these guys are saints.
You can be the strongest guy in the field but if you don't know how to use it, when to use it, and have the b*lls to use it at the right time, you'll lose.

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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1021 on: July 13, 2012, 11:03:03 AM »
Always be careful of the zealot.  Most zealots are hiding something

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« Reply #1022 on: July 13, 2012, 11:07:17 AM »
Republican Congressmen..looking out for cheats everyday.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/us-congressman-questions-role-of-usada-in-armstrong-case


Kind of reminds me of when one of LA's congressional buddies stuck his nose into the federal investigation. BTW why aren't these same guys up in arms when they have hearings about MLB.


guess which company is from his district?

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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1023 on: July 13, 2012, 11:15:53 AM »
Republican Congressmen..looking out for cheats everyday.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/us-congressman-questions-role-of-usada-in-armstrong-case


Kind of reminds me of when one of LA's congressional buddies stuck his nose into the federal investigation. BTW why aren't these same guys up in arms when they have hearings about MLB.

Ever watch a Congressional hearing on a topic you are familiar with?  It's not a very reassuring feeling. 

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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1024 on: July 13, 2012, 12:26:39 PM »

guess which company is from his district?

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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1025 on: July 13, 2012, 06:27:43 PM »
Can someone explain to me why USADA has jurisdiction over Bruyneel? Did he live in the US? Is it because USPS/Disco was a US based team?

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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1026 on: July 17, 2012, 12:18:32 PM »

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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1027 on: July 17, 2012, 02:56:09 PM »
*play jaws theme music*

so, how now?

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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1028 on: July 17, 2012, 02:59:21 PM »
Well in Johan's defense the Schmucks don't do anything with the team. They have their own medical staff and train with their dad and Kim Anderson. But on the other hand for a guy who seems to have had all his previous teams by the scruff of their neck he's managed this team like a complete rookie.  Compared to last season this year has been an unmitigated disaster.  The only rider that has performed well they don't pay and don't bring to the tour.

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« Reply #1029 on: July 17, 2012, 03:00:15 PM »
Well, it's only July, but I think that seals their claim for "worst season ever".

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« Reply #1030 on: July 17, 2012, 03:03:27 PM »
Well, it's only July, but I think that seals their claim for "worst season ever".


For a team that built for one reason and that was to win the Tour this season really couldn't be any worse..unless it's team leader tested positive for doping at the Tour...ok. Worst. Season. EVAH!!!!

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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1031 on: July 17, 2012, 03:07:17 PM »
Do you think Johan and his team are now fair game for the UCI?  Meaning, with the latest LA and Bruyneel trouble, perhaps the UCI is distancing themselves and now the Trek riders "protection" is off?  Just my conspiring mind...
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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1032 on: July 17, 2012, 03:10:35 PM »
All these people who wiggled their way out of their Operation Puerto affiliations didn't learn their lesson, did they?  First Contador then Frank.  Took a few years and lots of millions earned by those two though.  Cheating pays.

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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1033 on: July 17, 2012, 03:17:31 PM »
All these people who wiggled their way out of their Operation Puerto affiliations didn't learn their lesson, did they?


this implies that the rest of the peloton is clean and that doping is relatively rare. unfortunately, I don't have faith that this assumption is an accurate one.
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Re: The Civil Doping Discussion Thread
« Reply #1034 on: July 17, 2012, 03:19:59 PM »

this implies that the rest of the peloton is clean and that doping is relatively rare.

It doesn't imply that.  Aren't you going to college?   :P