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rog

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The Pro Cycling thread
« on: April 10, 2011, 01:11:46 PM »
Over at the old place, there was a Pro Cycling forum...which was basically a place to send idiots so that they wouldn't wreck the 33. I don't think we need one over here, per se, but I thought one thread to discuss pro cycling might not be a bad idea.


So to kick this off, I was reading Heinrich Hausslers blog, and was very surprised to see that he's not going to be on Garmin-Cervelo's tour team. I can't imagine JV wouldn't see him as an asset - after all, he's won at least one tour stage that I can remember already. I can't imagine him being detrimental to the green jersey hopes, although with the Cav rules, he certainly wouldn't be a real favorite...but I have to wonder who's decision this was, and why. I don't see the benefit for either team or rider. Thoughts?

EDR

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2011, 02:36:03 PM »
He's not had a great season. He seems a bit 'fluffy' as well, I wonder if he's just not putting in the effort that JV needs?  Could be that the team dynamic with him isn't great either...this team wasn't hand picked as much as it was a merger.

rog

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2011, 02:48:06 PM »
True, but it's not like they have anyone better, with the possible exception of Vande Velde and Ryder Hesjedal. And he did have a couple of early results, in Qatar, I believe - can't remember offhand, though...I might be making that up. He's a decent commodity, and he might be on the last year of his contract, as well...I'd hate to see him lost to the next Aussie team to lose funding because he wasn't on the tour team.


Not sure what you mean by fluffy...

rat fink

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 10:46:54 AM »
Thor did a surprisingly good job yesterday at P-R. I was rooting for Cancellara, but was happy to Van Summeren win the way he did. I always love watching that race.  :)

EDR

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 11:53:56 AM »
Thor did a surprisingly good job yesterday at P-R. I was rooting for Cancellara, but was happy to Van Summeren win the way he did. I always love watching that race.  :)


Really? He couldn't hang with Cancellara...he gave up when he had numbers in the chase group and a rider up the road waiting for him...if that's doing a great job you have pretty low standards.

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 04:00:45 PM »
You're right, I'm wrong.

rog

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 04:56:55 PM »
Well, this answers why Haussler isn't going to the tour...seems his injuries this year have kept him off the bike enough so that they decided it's not a good idea.


http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/8077/Haussler-to-miss-Tour-de-France-will-concentrate-on-world-championships.aspx

EDR

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 05:03:58 PM »
Well, this answers why Haussler isn't going to the tour...seems his injuries this year have kept him off the bike enough so that they decided it's not a good idea.


http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/8077/Haussler-to-miss-Tour-de-France-will-concentrate-on-world-championships.aspx


I'm happy to hear this, I'm a huge fan of HH and firmly believe had he been trying to win MSR instead of leading out and dropping Thor he would have beaten Cav.  When healthy that guy is scary fast.

Quel

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 10:13:08 AM »
As if the Spaniards haven't helped out Contador enough recently, check out what they've got in store for the 2014 World Championships:

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/04/news/2014-worlds-courses-in-spain-include-climbing-tt-demanding-road-circuit_168687



EDR

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 10:43:02 AM »
I'm not opposed to having hillier courses from time to time at the WC's.  It's no less fare than having a flat course that only the sprinters can win, and those are quite common.  It would be great to see an Andy Schleck or Alberto Contador contending for a GT win in the rainbow stripes.

Ian Schmidt

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2011, 04:58:11 PM »
I'm not opposed to having hillier courses from time to time at the WC's.  It's no less fare than having a flat course that only the sprinters can win, and those are quite common.  It would be great to see an Andy Schleck or Alberto Contador contending for a GT win in the rainbow stripes.


+1

echappist

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2011, 05:35:03 PM »
I'm not opposed to having hillier courses from time to time at the WC's.  It's no less fare than having a flat course that only the sprinters can win, and those are quite common.  It would be great to see an Andy Schleck or Alberto Contador contending for a GT win in the rainbow stripes.


Who needs to see those to contending for a GT win in the rainbow jersey when we all saw Cuddles do it valiantly this past year ? ;)

EDR

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2011, 05:40:57 PM »

Who needs to see those two riding around in a GT with the rainbow jersey when we all saw Cuddles do it this past year ? ;)


FTFY

Quel

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2011, 06:04:54 PM »
I'm not opposed to that for the road race by any means.  Just not sure if I like the idea of climbing prowess playing a large role for the TT. 

Coupling a hilly road race with a hilly TT seems suited to Contador more than any other rider, so I just thought it was funny that Spain was doing just that.

echappist

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2011, 06:12:35 PM »

Why EDR, you don't think Cuddles was valiant?

I'm not opposed to that for the road race by any means.  Just not sure if I like the idea of climbing prowess playing a large role for the TT. 

Coupling a hilly road race with a hilly TT seems suited to Contador more than any other rider, so I just thought it was funny that Spain was doing just that.


Fabian did just fine in that so called "hilly" TT in Beijing