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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2011, 07:43:02 AM »
What a tool.

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2011, 08:39:54 AM »
D@mn you had to compare it to the Catholic Church!  That is a very good analogy though.  I have arguments all the time with my wife and her family about the catholic church, don't get me started on that.  And I was born and raised catholic, 12 years of catholic school, my oldest is making her communion in 2 weeks causing me to miss a local stage race or a free trip down to Athens for the Athens Twilight, man you got my BP up this morning.
WC is the Debil.

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2011, 08:53:10 AM »
You made the right choice, WC.

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2011, 09:48:15 AM »
The problem isn't even the UCI itself.  It's just that Pat McQuaid is a complete dickhead.  Get someone competent in there and this wouldn't be such an issue.

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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2011, 10:47:52 AM »
The problem isn't even the UCI itself.  It's just that Pat McQuaid is a complete dickhead.  Get someone competent in there and this wouldn't be such an issue.


The UCI was a corrupt incompetent organization that has long outlasted it's usefulness in regards to pro cycling even under Verburggen (sp).  It has become even more so under McQuaid.  What does the UCI do for pro riders that they, in concert with the big promoters, can't do for themselves? 

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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2011, 10:49:06 AM »
Heh...you gotta admit, even by McQuaids standard, it's pretty arrogant to say that the riders and teams need to know their place.

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« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2011, 10:56:09 AM »
No I think Pat McQuaid, since his first day of announcing his desire to be head of the UCI has demonstrated that arrogance.  Verbruggen was an arrogant ass hat as well though.  The UCI and the FIA are so similar that it's scary. These two organizations exist to exist.  They seem to be in the way of whats best for the sport and only suck money out.   

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2011, 11:50:54 AM »

The UCI was a corrupt incompetent organization that has long outlasted it's usefulness in regards to pro cycling even under Verburggen (sp).  It has become even more so under McQuaid.  What does the UCI do for pro riders that they, in concert with the big promoters, can't do for themselves?

I think if done well, the UCI is an important thing.  Licenses ensure real consistency across the difference race promoters (same as USAC, no?), standards for equipment are important (especially for TT bikes, even though UCI has ****ed it up a lot), and having a group that can say "this is the world championship" is cool.  So I think a group like UCI is important, but they are playing far too active of a role right now.

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2011, 12:25:50 PM »
I think if done well, the UCI is an important thing.  Licenses ensure real consistency across the difference race promoters (same as USAC, no?), standards for equipment are important (especially for TT bikes, even though UCI has ****ed it up a lot), and having a group that can say "this is the world championship" is cool.  So I think a group like UCI is important, but they are playing far too active of a role right now.


Licensing, rules etc can just as easily be set up by a 'league' run by the teams/promoters.  I think the UCI like the USAC has a big roll to play in amateur cycling and they can have the WC as that is not a 'trade team' race but a national team race.  National Feds like USAC can still have their say in Nat Champs as well.  But Pro cycling needs to become professional and the UCI blends the two and tries to set rules that work across both.  Also the pro teams need to disassociate themselves from WADA and the IOC.

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2011, 01:14:46 PM »
I think if done well, the UCI is an important thing.  Licenses ensure real consistency across the difference race promoters (same as USAC, no?), standards for equipment are important (especially for TT bikes, even though UCI has ****ed it up a lot), and having a group that can say "this is the world championship" is cool.  So I think a group like UCI is important, but they are playing far too active of a role right now.


Heh...in theory it's a good thing. But practice has to live up to theory, and in the UCI's case, it does not.

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2011, 05:03:16 PM »
2011 wins for UCI ProTeams
(in UCI .1 races and higher through April 18)
1. HTC-Highroad   17 (seven riders)
2. Garmin-Cervélo   12 (seven riders)
3. Rabobank    12 (five riders)
4. Team RadioShack   11 (seven riders)
5. Lampre-ISD   10 (six riders)
6. Saxo Bank-SunGard   10 (four riders)
7. Movistar    9 (four riders)
8. Liquigas-Cannondale   8 (four riders)
9. Leopard-Trek   7 (three riders)
10. Omega Pharma-Lotto   7 (two riders)
11. Vacansoleil-DCM   6 (four riders)
Sky    6 (four riders)
13. Katusha    3 (three riders)
14. Quick Step    3 (two riders)
15. Astana    2 (two riders)
AG2R-La Mondiale   2 (two riders)
17. BMC Racing   2 (one rider)
Euskaltel-Euskadi   2 (one rider)
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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2011, 12:30:40 PM »
Thanks for the spoiler :(   Actually I don't care that much but others might
WC is the Debil.

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2011, 12:50:09 PM »
just removed my post

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2011, 02:44:32 PM »
This thread should be exempt of the spoiler rule.

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Re: The Pro Cycling thread
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2011, 02:57:00 PM »
Yeah I'd agree
WC is the Debil.