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You weren't designed to run...
« on: October 31, 2011, 07:26:52 PM »
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this is what my orthopedic surgeon said today  :(

But, he also said that I can continue to run and hopefully improve. I've been having knee issues which are attributed to my off-center kneecaps.

Prescription for 3 weeks of physical therapy 3x a week, then a proper running analysis. Woo! I'm excited to hopefully start to move on from these knee issues.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2011, 07:44:36 PM »
bull****.


barefoot.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2011, 07:48:26 PM »
I try to do 3-5 barefoot miles a week. Ramping it up slowly. Never have pain when I run barefoot, except in my calves.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2011, 07:56:46 PM »
I try to do 3-5 barefoot miles a week. Ramping it up slowly. Never have pain when I run barefoot, except in my calves.


yeah. there you go.


the only thing I know is that it takes a long time to acclimate, but my knee/hip pain went away entirely. Can you focus on bike or else for cardio while you adjust?

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2011, 08:04:23 PM »
I have half-marathons in Nov, Dec, and Jan, and a full in Feb...

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2011, 08:16:49 PM »
If you want to change your running style you need to give yourself a little more time than that.  Or you will end up with some bad Achilles tendinitis

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2011, 08:55:40 PM »
I've heard that before; where people weren't 'designed to run' but then the person explains how their anatomy is so far from the norm that it's understandable. I'm pretty sure that given enough time your gait would correct itself to your anatomy. We're human. We're designed to run.

And I agree with RU, now that you know what your problem is give it time to fix and work on the correction. Less now means more later. But that's just me and everyone knows what my opinions are worth. :P
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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2011, 09:00:29 PM »
I also have a chondral flap.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 07:47:21 AM »
I also have a chondral flap.

So?
 
Lots of people have rents in their chondral cartiledge.  The way to fix that is to allow it to heal by diminishing the ground reaction forces that stress the knee joint (ie: stop running with a heavy heel strike). 
 
The studies on barefoot running are impressive with regard to the diminished forces at the knee and hip.  The problem is that SOMETHING has to absorb the force.  When running barefoot (or with little to no hindfoot support) the forces are absorbed by the muscles and tendons that surround the ankle.  We are talking about momentary forces of 5-10X body weight.  It takes a long time to have your tendons adapt to that kind of stress.  Slow and steady is the only way to accomplish this.
 
Your orthopedist is wrong.  We are born to run (cue "The Boss").  Just not with shock absorbing running shoes.
 
 
Jen, I am the perfect example of this.  For the past 30 yrs I have believed that I could not run.  Because since I effed up my knee, every time I would run, it would swell up like a grapefruit and hurt for 2 weeks (I destroyed my medial meniscus, needed a repair of the MCL and LCL.  I now have moderate medial joint space narrowing, ie. osteoarthritis). I have NO knee pain when running now.  But despite running 3-4 d/wk, I am stuck right at 6k.  Any more than that, my ankles kill me.  I am doing this with the plan of increasing my distance over the next 2-3 years. 

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 07:48:42 AM »
But running is still stupid.
 
as is cycling
 
 
as is swimming.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 08:33:56 AM »
But running is still stupid.
 
as is cycling
 
 
as is swimming.

But mostly running.

and swimming.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2011, 09:00:26 AM »
If it can make you happy, I've been living a not so bad life so far with my two genetically misaligned knee caps.

Found out I had that problem when one patella decided to dislocate and stay out of the knee... in the middle of a P.E. class while playing Dodge ball :facepalm: 

Always gave me some sort of problems but my doctor/physio were both agreeing that not doing sport was the worst thing I could do and what I had to do was strenghten my muscles and tendons.

My physio told me one of the main issue were the stabilizer muscles around the knees that weren't strong enough so she gave me a bunch of exercises to train them.
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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2011, 09:13:05 AM »
Cycling is great. It's bike racing that's stupid.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2011, 09:31:41 AM »
Cycling is great. It's bike racing that's stupid.

Stop lying to yourself, everything is stupid. It's just that you enjoy it. Which is alright, really.





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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2011, 03:06:20 PM »

  But despite running 3-4 d/wk, I am stuck right at 6k.  Any more than that, my ankles kill me.  I am doing this with the plan of increasing my distance over the next 2-3 years.


When I hit about 2.5 miles I feel my form start to give out. I have been aiming for 3 mile runs lately, just to stress a little bit past the point of fatigue, but I'm very careful and conscious the last few minutes to not start heel-striking or over reaching.


The worst part is that the first mile is difficult for me as well. I only get about 12 minutes of "nice" running in between the first mile and the last bit of struggle.