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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2011, 04:17:06 PM »
Couch surfing with pizza and beer isn't dumb.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2011, 06:22:49 PM »
Couch surfing with pizza and beer isn't dumb.


Depends on the beer and pizza.

If it's cheap beer and greasy pizza, yes it is.
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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2011, 07:57:02 AM »
I was told that same thing Jen, ran 2 marathons after being told I wasn't designed to run.  There are many articles about how the expensive, "specially designed" running shoes contribute to the higher amount of running injuries.  Barefoot running or running in inexpensive, not so cushy, not so motion control-ly shoes helps us get back to our natural running gait.  As RUOkie said, we really were born to run.
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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2011, 12:46:28 PM »
I've gotten into internet arguments before about the evils of those Hoka running shoes. Oddly, it was with 2 ultra runners who were both calling Vibrams an expensive fad. They were both nursing foot/ankle injuries.


Hoka's are like $170!

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 01:29:17 PM »
I've gotten into internet arguments before about the evils of those Hoka running shoes. Oddly, it was with 2 ultra runners who were both calling Vibrams an expensive fad. They were both nursing foot/ankle injuries.


Hoka's are like $170!

If I had a patient who had chronic foot/ankle problems that was refractory to treatment, I would suggest that they switch to Hokas.  But then they run the risk of knee/hip/back  problems.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 04:09:38 PM »
Man this reminds me, there was this one time in college and my friends pulled out this special flavored tobacco and... :shh:
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 08:33:46 PM »
Incorrigible.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2011, 06:30:46 AM »
ehhh, I'm reverting back to week 2 or 3 of my running plan, I can already feel some pain building around my knees.

I'm gonna do the strenghtening exercises Moar and run even less than I can  :(

Though I think I'm going to take today off and try myself at swimming instead, not gonna look good but it will help my knees.

Almost make me want to try these barefoot running shoes if they can save me from injuring my poor self.
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2011, 11:10:55 PM »
I don't know how running got so complicated all of a sudden in the last 5 years.  When I started running in middle school (mid 90s), we went to the running store, had a smart dude tell us what type of shoes we needed, then ran.  It just so happens that all these "alternative" shoes cost 50-100% more than the old ones.

I break it down to this:

Step 1) Get a good pair of shoes recommended by a running store after watching your gait.
Step 2) Take...it....very...slow.

Really, I think a lot of the problem is with step 2.  People do far too much too quick.  I've been running off and on for 15 years now, and I wanted to say that I have never run a single run of half marathon distance or longer, but I think I did one last year on the trails.  So ONE run over 12 miles in 15 years.  Yet everyone I see is instantly jumping into half marathons and longer as if it's the standard. 

I don't quite think it's BAD to have a big goal like that.  But I do think it's a big part of what leads to such a large injury rate in running. 

Of course, I'm not a doctor or any sort of expert. I'm just an average runner ranting a bit, so take that for what it's worth:).

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2011, 10:58:06 AM »
I don't know how running got so complicated all of a sudden in the last 5 years.  When I started running in middle school (mid 90s), we went to the running store, had a smart dude tell us what type of shoes we needed, then ran.  It just so happens that all these "alternative" shoes cost 50-100% more than the old ones.

I break it down to this:

Step 1) Get a good pair of shoes recommended by a running store after watching your gait.
Step 2) Take...it....very...slow.

Really, I think a lot of the problem is with step 2.  People do far too much too quick.  I've been running off and on for 15 years now, and I wanted to say that I have never run a single run of half marathon distance or longer, but I think I did one last year on the trails.  So ONE run over 12 miles in 15 years.  Yet everyone I see is instantly jumping into half marathons and longer as if it's the standard. 

I don't quite think it's BAD to have a big goal like that.  But I do think it's a big part of what leads to such a large injury rate in running. 

Of course, I'm not a doctor or any sort of expert. I'm just an average runner ranting a bit, so take that for what it's worth:).

Well, you're probably right man. During the last few days I  had time to think about my goals and how to approach them correctly. I was rushing things because my heart was able to, but my  tendons and bones aren't ready for it just yet.

So what I'm gonna do is go back from the very beginning and do it slowly but over time my bones will grow a bit stronger, my tendons will (with hope and luck) get better, stronger AND able to sustain more.

And during that time, I'll keep on doing exercises to strenghten my knees. If it still doesn't work. Well, I don't know.  Life sucks.
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2011, 12:54:10 PM »
Quel. You are completely correct.  The issue here is that we have a bunch of competitive people with fairly good cv fitness.  They then try to transfer their cycling experience to running. As you said, you can't do this without an overuse injury. 

That is why I will be doing shorter tris only next yr.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2011, 01:17:08 PM »
Finished my 13.1. Ran slow and had no pain. Felt strong for most of it, except the stomach gurgles I got from their weird sports drink.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2011, 02:29:36 PM »
 :thumbsup:
Finished my 13.1. Ran slow and had no pain. Felt strong for most of it, except the stomach gurgles I got from their weird sports drink.

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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2011, 04:34:33 PM »
Finished my 13.1. Ran slow and had no pain. Felt strong for most of it, except the stomach gurgles I got from their weird sports drink.
Nice!  Drinking something new on race day is always an adventure. I've seen some bad things happen during running races.  Things that will humiliate you.
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Re: You weren't designed to run...
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2011, 04:40:06 PM »
It was something called Cytomax. Tasted fine, but I think had too much sugar for me.